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- CommentAuthorbadsciencemonk
- CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
From the BHA site
"Although this seems to be the opposite of the way conventional medicines work, where a greater dose has a greater impact, there are conventional drugs that work on the same principle"
Which drugs are those please? -
- CommentAuthornielsbohr
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
One could argue that conventional drugs and homeopathic drugs are used in exactly the same manner.
In both, the key is to deliver the right amount of drugs. Too much and side effects may be too high (Hahnemann recognised this). However, too low and specific effects may be lessened.
Since the homeopathic belief of 'like-cures-like' is not a general principle but a mistake Hahnhemann made from of inductive error from one peculiar case (Cinchona bark), then Homeopaths have found a method of prescribing precisely the right amount of their drugs - zero. Side effects are removed and the natural course of illness can progress unhindered, with a smattering of placebo and charm. -
- CommentAuthorwarhelmet
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
Some homeopathic remedies are made by using a "Radionic computer". -
- CommentAuthorbadsciencemonk
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
Are you sure?
I have found this site http://www.powerattunements.com/radionics.html and it seems quite mad. Even if some homeopaths do use this I think it is only fair to let the BHA confirm that their members (as trained medical professionals)do not. -
- CommentAuthorlarus
- CommentTimeJun 12th 2009
Remedies made by radionics cannot be called homeopathic as there are no processes of dilution and succussion as per the traditional Hahnemannian methods and those defined by the EuPh. Similarly, Flower Remedies are not homeopathic...
According to UKSI 1994 (105) and European Parliament Directive 92/73/EEC.1 “A ‘homoeopathic medicinal product’ means a medicinal product prepared from products, substances or compositions called homoeopathic stocks in accordance with a homoeopathic manufacturing procedure described by the European Pharmacopoeia or, in the absence thereof, by any pharmacopoeia used officially in a[n EU] member State.” -
- CommentAuthorbadsciencemonk
- CommentTimeJun 12th 2009
Thank you for clearing that up.
Do you know which conventional drugs are based on the idea that they are more powerful with greater dilutions beyond what I like to call Avocado's number? -
- CommentAuthorwarhelmet
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
Larus - does that mean that those homeopaths who use radionic machines are not homeopaths? And what are the implications for the advertising/marketing of radionics devices whose manufacturers claim that they produce homeopathic remedies? -
- CommentAuthorwarhelmet
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
Oh, and penduluums? -
- CommentAuthorwarhelmet
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
Then I remembered this lot... -
- CommentAuthorwarhelmet
- CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
Sorry, I should have put the link in www.mcgurk-electrical.co.uk. Do be aware that Google thinks the site unsafe. -
- CommentAuthordocboz
- CommentTimeJun 17th 2009
To answer this question:
in breif, homeopathic medicines are made by taking a tincture (solution in alcohol) - in the case of a soluable substance - or in the case of insolulable substances a triturition - grinding with lactose powder. The tincture or 3rd in a sequence of trituritions is then diluted and succussed (vigourous shaking)sequentially in a alcohol/water mix.
Simple dilution does not produce an active medicine. The succussion steps appear to be vital.
The resulting alcohol/water solution is then either added to lactose or sucrose pillules or used directly.
These proceedures are laid down in the homeopathic pharmacy literature, which is not secret.
There are some in-vitro studies (sorry can't find the references, but these were papers in Homeopathy) showing that medicines made up in pure water have short-lived activity, I remember also one paper that showed that brandy worked better than pure alcohol.
there are indications in the literature that both alcohol and other impurities like microscopic amounts of silica leaching from the glassware used are important in creating an active homepathic medicine rather than an inert and useless dilution. -
- CommentAuthorjohnbee
- CommentTimeAug 23rd 2009
Docboz, what you have written is absolute rubbish. potentised remedies may be made in the way you suggest but homeopathic remedies are not. Homeopathic medicines do not need to be diluted to be homeopathic they only have to be able to produce the same symptoms in a healthy person.
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